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In searching for “clean” protein sources, it's hard to overlook beans and cheese. However, there seems to be some conflict in terms of which are safe to eat.
Beans are relatively high on the purine list (127/128) but their Ph is relatively low (-.1)
Cheddar cheese is one of the lowest on the purine list (6) but it's higher than many meats when it comes to Ph (18.98)?!
It seems like the Ph rating might be more important, if you had to go by one, but why is there a conflict with these?
dcdude said:
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Cheddar cheese is one of the lowest on the purine list (6) but it's higher than many meats when it comes to Ph (18.98)?!?
I don't know on what planet you are living or where you are coming from ( I do know, Los Angeles is out of this world.) But here on Earth the highest pH number you will ever get or find is: 14
Sorry, I had my units wrong. It's not Ph, it's PRAL (Potential Renal Acid Load).
Los Angeles has become the world. We've got everything and every type of person here now. It's kind of hard to find the “fruits, nuts and flakes” that LA was famous for. I only know one surfer?
dcdude said:
Sorry, I had my units wrong. It's not Ph, it's PRAL (Potential Renal Acid Load).
Los Angeles has become the world. We've got everything and every type of person here now. It's kind of hard to find the “fruits, nuts and flakes” that LA was famous for. I only know one surfers…
Thanks, Chuck, for setting us “straight”. I hope you didn't mind my somewhat warped sense of German humor.
Tell me about the “fruits and nuts” in LA. I used to live there in one of my former lives before we invaded Viet Nam. You peaked my curiosity: What is that “I only know one surfers…” all about?Hans,
Even as someone of German descent, I've never heard someone use “German” and “humor” in the same sentence before. (sorry, couldn't resist) My people are from Eisfeld, north of Nurnberg.
For a while, there was a gross misconception that practically everyone in southern California surfed. I was just trying to show that's not true.
So do you eat beans and cheese or what? 🙂
dcdude said:
Hans,
Even as someone of German descent, I've never heard someone use “German” and “humor” in the same sentence before. (sorry, couldn't resist) My people are from Eisfeld, north of Nurnberg.
For a while, there was a gross misconception that practically everyone in southern California surfed. I was just trying to show that's not true.
So do you eat beans and cheese or what? 🙂
Well, you see, Chuck, that's the humor. In my various different lives I have lived in various countries, so I have acquired a certain “humor”. But 9 out 0f 10 Americans don't get MY humor because it is somewhat warped, but still humor. Strangely my Irish friends and non-friends seem to be the only ones to catch the drift it.
?I used to eat lots of beans but they made me float. I still eat cheese every day, including Limburger cheese.
dcdude said:
In searching for “clean” protein sources, it's hard to overlook beans and cheese. However, there seems to be some conflict in terms of which are safe to eat.
Beans are relatively high on the purine list (127/128) but their Ph is relatively low (-.1)
Cheddar cheese is one of the lowest on the purine list (6) but it's higher than many meats when it comes to Ph (18.98)?!
It seems like the Ph rating might be more important, if you had to go by one, but why is there a conflict with these?
I'm probably in the minority, but I don't pay any attention to the purine content of food, especially vegetables.? If you avoid meat, and try to avoid purine rich vegetables, well.. there is little left to eat.
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Here's a study that showed that purine rich vegetables like beans do not cause gout:
[edit – poor quality resource replaced: Food High In Uric Acid: The Mythical Beast That Still Haunts Gouties.]
There could well be something to pH, but the information is so confusing and conflicting that I don't bother with that, either.? I'd advise to eat a healthy diet, mostly plants, avoid red meat and alcohol, drink plenty of water.? Monitor your SUA closely and take medication if necessary to keep it under 6 mg/dL.?
Beans?? Good source of protein.
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I'm confused as to why MyFootHurst's link to the Choi study was replaced with a link back to GP. If the article was “poor quality,” why is the study still referenced on the GP page?
I found the original article to be very helpful. If there is bad information in it, I'm all ears…
dcdude said:
I'm confused as to why MyFootHurst's link to the Choi study was replaced with a link back to GP. If the article was “poor quality,” why is the study still referenced on the GP page?
I found the original article to be very helpful. If there is bad information in it, I'm all ears…
Nothing too much wrong with the study, but plenty wrong with the site describing it (see external sites for clarification). Every hour I spend checking stuff like that, is an hour less available for improving gout resources.
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