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I am a 32 year old man from Leeds, England. I was diagnosed with having gout last week, my diet is ok and rarely drink. I have been prescribed indometacin but they have made me feel really nausias and feel dizzy with headaches. I have told the doctor and are re-prescribing. Since stopping taking my medication yesterday the pain and area infected seems to be creeping from the front to the back of my foot and the whole of my anke is swollen. The whole foot is virtually swollen in fact and it is quite difficult to walk.
I know this is early days and my diet will need to change but I am really looking for some assurance! Is it normal for the gout to spread? and is there a simple remedy for pain relief.
Thank you
Mark
It is common for gout to affect the whole foot and ankle in this way.
try to keep the foot warm, but not tightly bound – i.e. 2 pairs of loose fitting socks with velcro-fastening shoes are a good idea. Impress your wife / partner with bed socks.
Drink plenty of water to encourage excretion of uric acid, and to avoid dehydration.
There are many pain relief options. I personally find ibuprofen best for me, though other people have similar reactions to yours with indometacin. I'm sure a certain zip2play of this parish will be along soon to extol the virtues of colchicine.
What you really need to push with your doctor is the need to lower uric acid. Most doctors wait far too long before considering this. It seems to be in the feint hope that gout will go away from lifestyle changes. This rarely happens, but even if it does, you still need regular uric acid testing to make sure it is truly under control. Failure to do this is a surefire way to have a few years of uric acid crystal buildup with the inevitable prolonged, frequent, gout flares and accompanying crippling bone erosion.
Mark,
Yes, as predicted I strongly recommend colchicine as the singulary best “cure” for an acute attack of gout…in fact, it has almost no other function and is often considered DIAGNOSTIC if it works.
For me too, indomethacin (Indocin) cause some stomach discomfort but a great deal of severe dizziness. I almost fell down an escalator.
In the States another good NSAID is available OTC, generic naproxyn aka Aleve or Naprosyn. I believe it is strictly prescription in the UK though. Give it a try. DON'T ake aspirin unless you take it by the handful and don't bother with acetomenophen…called paracetamol in UK, it's really worthless.
But however you get through it, you will probably want to start allpuurinol afterward if your uric acid is higher than 6.5. The alternative is to wait for another attack and THEN start the allopurinol.
I don't know WHY doctors are so reluctant to start colchicine…yes it causes diarrhea but what a small price to pay for fast relief. I stopped a crippling 9 day attack completely in 22 hours. (Stop at 16 pills or pain relief.)
Mark,
A very simple and effective remedy to relief gout pains is “black bean” broth. I tried it myself and had recommended to relatives who found it effective in relieving gout pains.
You may be surprised and wonder, “why beans?” because they are known to cause gout. But, it really worked for me. Perhaps, it is the “anthocyanins” in the skin of the black beans that works.
Boil 150gm of black beans in 2 litres of water for one and a half hours in slow fire. Discard the beans and drink only the broth, which is purplish black in colour.
I have tried almost any natural remedies recommended and I find black bean broth to be the most effective.
That's very interesting metamorph.
I make black bean soup often (Pureed with lots of cumin, a squirt of lemon) and have been discarding the soaking liquid except last time when I incorporated it (in a much smaller quantity) into the soup for enhanced BLACKNESS.
God, I imagine it the soaking liquid straigt up tastes like bitter death though. Better a foul liquor than acute gout, eh.
I'll try it for my next attack, but I am going on the assumption that there will never BE one. I've upped my allopurinol to 4oo mg./day and will soon get a uric acid test…it's been a couple years since last testing due to a lapse in my insurance (hideous U.S. medical system.)
zip2play,
It's not the “soaking liquid”, but the broth that is to be taken. Yes I do believe that since you are on medication everyday it would relieve you of you pain.
At first was on medication too (NSAID) whenever I had a gout attack and it helped. But, very often the pain came back whenever I eat too much red meat and other purine rich food, which I had difficulty abstaining from. I have an aversion for drugs because of other side effects they might cause.
I tried apple cider vinegar, which worked fine for many people, but my stomach could not take too much “acid” and I used to get diarrhoea from it.
My relative in Australia suffered from gout pains for many years and was on medication to relieve his pains until he tried black bean drinks. He is a very happy that he has not got another gout attack so far. He is taking black bean drinks regularly.
Researchers have discovered that black beans are loaded with antioxidant compounds, especially “anthocyanins”. Black beans do not cost much and it's natural. So, why not just try the black bean broth the way I prepared it before your gout pains ever come back. Hopefully, you might not need any medication after that – and save $$$$.
I am also fully aware that gout pains have a lot do do with what we eat. As I had mentioned earlier I love eating – all kinds of “good” or “bad” food. Now I can still indulge in and enjoy my favourite food, because I take black bean broth regularly. Of course, I am mindful of my other aspects of health and well-being and eat in moderation.
Black beans is the best thing that I discovered from the internet, so far. It really worked like “magic” for me. But I also wondered, when I scoured the NET, why not much was mentioned about “black beans” as a cure/relief for gout since it is so effective. Is it because it's a “bean”, and beans are known to cause gout, so nobody would even bother to try it at all?
Since this “wonderful little black bean” has worked for me and cured/relieved my gout pains I am happy to share it with all others who are enduring or suffering terrible gout pains.
Some of my friends have asked me – “Why don't you take this opportunity to make lots of $$$$$$$$, by re-packaging my “black bean cure” and put up an advertistment to publicise and promote it?”. Well, to me $$$$ is not “everything” in life and I am not going to make money out of others' agony or sufferings.
metamorph,
Explain to me what you mean by black bean BROTH. If it's not the soaking liquid then is it the liquid after COOKING the beans and discarding them (such a waste)?
Or is it a puree of the beans with a large excess of water…what I call black bean soup?
metamorph said:
Boil 150gm of black beans in 2 litres of water for one and a half hours in slow fire. Discard the beans and drink only the broth, which is purplish black in colour.
You don't mention soaking the beans, first – so, just so I'm clear – you take the dry beans, cook them as directed – throw out the beans and drink the liquid you cooked the beans in, right?
Or, do you actually soak them first, then cook, then drink the broth? I'm just wanting to be sure I do this right.
opa6x57 said:
metamorph said:
Boil 150gm of black beans in 2 litres of water for one and a half hours in slow fire. Discard the beans and drink only the broth, which is purplish black in colour.
You don't mention soaking the beans, first – so, just so I'm clear – you take the dry beans, cook them as directed – throw out the beans and drink the liquid you cooked the beans in, right?
Or, do you actually soak them first, then cook, then drink the broth? I'm just wanting to be sure I do this right.
You don't need to soak the beans. Just rinse them quickly and then boil them in a pot. I started boiling them in a strong fire then reduce my hot plate setting to No.2 and let it boil for another hour. It's alright to boil it slightly longer as the broth will be darker.
Actually, besides relieving gout pains, black beans have lots of other benefits to our health. Try it and you will be amazed how fast it works. Within hours my gout pains disappeared!!!
Go to the NET to find more information about the “efficacy of black beans” and “anthocyanins” which abounds in its skin or hull.
zip2play said:
metamorph,
Explain to me what you mean by black bean BROTH. If it's not the soaking liquid then is it the liquid after COOKING the beans and discarding them (such a waste)?
Or is it a puree of the beans with a large excess of water…what I call black bean soup?
zip2play,
Black bean broth is the liquid we get after we boil it. Yes, it may seem a waste to discard all the beans but that's how it works. You mentioned that you puried the beans and ate all. I am afraid you are actually eating the bean which might have contributed to you gout pains. It is the “anthocyanins” in the skin that works.
Hope the black bean broth will help rid you of your gout pains too, just like it works for me!!!! Happy gulping!!!
One very important point about black beans is that it is a very effective relief for severe gout pains but not a cure for gout. Prevention is always better than cure! The best way to avoid having gout attacks is still to refrain from taking too much purine-rich food – food that will increase the uric acid in our blood. These are already discussed in detail in this “gout forum”.
Recent research shows that black beans are rich in antioxidant compounds, in particular anthocyanins, found in the skin of black beans. In the course of inflammation, enzymes damage connective tissue in capillaries, causing blood to leak into surrounding tissues. Oxidants are released and further damage blood-vessel walls. Anthocyanins protect in several ways. First, they neutralize enzymes that destroy connective tissue. Second, their antioxidant capacity prevents oxidants from damaging connective tissue. Finally, they repair damaged proteins in the blood-vessel walls. Animal experiments have shown that supplementation with anthocyanins effectively prevents inflammation and subsequent blood-vessel damage.
Hi,
Yesterday, I suffered my first gout attack 🙁
I'm Steve, by the way. I'm 36, and live in London.
It came right out of the blue, (affecting my left ankle), and (obviously) it's still incredibly painful today…although last night was excruciating.
I'm dosing myself up with Nurofen (Ibruprofen), but happened upon this forum whilst Googling for natural gout remedies.
This particular post has intrigued me…especially the Black Bean Broth.
I asked my wife to try and find some Black Beans today. All she could find were “Black Turtle Beans”.
Are these the same as discussed here?
If not, is there some other name? Do they come dried, or fresh?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for any light you can shed!
Cheers,
Steve
steve,
Yes, black beans and black TURTLE beans are synonymous. Give us a report on whether it worked.
I remain skeptical and still recommend a call to your doctor to call in an Rx to your pharmacist for a bottle of colchicine tablets…one an hour until cured, diarrhea sets in, or you reach a total of 16.
For those who like NATURAL cures, remember that colchicine is and has been for millennia the AUTUMN CROCUS though it is now far cheaper to synthesize the stuff.
IF you want to continue the Ibuprofen, remember you need an antiinflammatory dose, not the “occasional headache” dose. Thus you have to take a LOT:
Generally, the oral dose is 200–400 mg (5–10 mg/kg in children) every 1-2 hours, adding up to a usual daily dose of 800–1200 mg. 1200 mg is considered the maximum daily dose for over-the-counter use, though under medical direction, a maximum daily dose of 3200 mg may sometimes be used in increments of 600–800 mg.
Steve,
They are the same. I had consulted docs myself and was prescribed NSAIDs which were quite effective in relieving my gout pains and inflammation. However, I was concerned about their other side effects. I prefer the natural way to cure my ailments, if I could help it. Black beans worked very well for me without side effects and I hope i will work for others too.
Yes, we would like to know how well iit works for you. So, do keep us posted.
Cheers,
Metamorph
Hi all,
Just to let you know…(sorry I'm late replying!)
The gout all but disappeared the day after I drank the Black Bean broth! I made it just before I went to bed, and woke up (almost) symptom free
Now whether this would've happened anyway, or not, you can be sure I'll be using BBB the moment I get my next attack…which, of course, I hope won't ever happen.
Many, many thanks, Metamorph. You've made a believer out of me!
Thanks,
Steve
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