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coachsuze1959 said:
…? I just wondered if this was personal reaction or if other people had similar reactions.
I have been on Uloric for 12 months now. July 2010-Dec. 2010 on U. 40mg and Dec 2010-July 2011 on U. 80mg. I, never once, had any of the reactions you described. But, that is I , not you. Do not rely on reactions of someone else to any kind of medication, please.
Sue, I have some questions that need answering:
1. Did your doctor get a blood test done?
2. What is your blood uric acid level?
3. Why did your doctor prescribe that expensive Uloric ($5/pill) instead of Allopurinol (pennies/pill)?
4. What strength of Uloric did she prescribe?
5. Why did your doctor put you on that intermittent schedule? (By the way, that was insane. No doctor, I mean REAL doctor, would do that. You better get yourself another doctor, preferably a rheumatologist.)
zip2play said:
That's why I add 20 drops of KOH to my water (1 gal) before drinking it. I know, it has raised my bodily (urine and saliva) pH's by .5 to 1 point.
What was the strength of the KOH solution?you put into the water as drops. I ask because I know that pure KOH is a solid so?to use drops it must be a water solution.
Where did you buy it?
(I know that LYE (NaOH) is easy to find but I have never seen KOH even in a big hardware store.)
As I have said so many times: Stupidity has to be paid for (as well as poor English grammar) and I am paying. I had answered everyone yesterday and ONE stupid touch of one of my fingers, and OUCH!!!, it was gone for good.
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
I've tried to find out about KOH, and I'm assuming this is the chemical symbol for potassium hydroxide. All I can find out about that are danger warnings. I'm feeling a bit lost here. Am I on the right track, Hans? If so, please can you explain a litle more about this, as all I see is trouble.
I'll explain in my reply to Zip.
zhunter said:
…? When a low level attack occurs, do you stop the AP and start Colchicine or do you take something else.? …
You take something else. You take to this forum and read all about Allopurinol and attacks.
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As for mid/high attacks (6+), it sounds like I should stop taking AP and do a Colchicine regimen and then restart AP a week after the attack goes away, right?
Wrong!?
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Since attacks can happen anytime, I want to make sure “I'm ready…”.? Nothing worse than traveling and be unprepared for an attack.
I am sure “you're not ready…”.?
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
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You cannot fix a bad diet with a few scoops of water, but I'm happy to help advise anyone who wants to plan their own alkalizing diet.
No, you can't, however, since we are supposed to drink lots of water, why not alkalized water? That's why I add 20 drops of KOH to my water (1 gal) before drinking it. I know, it has raised my bodily (urine and saliva) pH's by .5 to 1 point. ?
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
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Ultrasound is not a mainstream diagnostic tool yet, but I'm encouraged by recent developments enough to report them in?Can You Hear Your Symptoms Of Gout??
To paraphrase the conclusion:
musculoskeletal ultrasound is reliable for detecting urate crystal deposition in knees and big toes in gout and in high uric acid with no symptoms of gout.
Maybe there is hope for something more accessible than dual energy scanners and less invasive than a joint fluid draw? It could also help assess treatment by tracking tophi reduction during urate lowering therapy.
There is ONE big, almost new, aspect of medical science, discovery, treatment: Ultrasound ?
?I have two contribution to make which I have touched on in the past. I was treated for 4-6 weeks with UT radiation and one type of meds (don't know what) in the late forties after WWII for my liver ailment which kept me well til this day.
And, as an NDT Science graduate with 15 years of experience in the military aircraft industry, as a level III in UT (Ultrasound Tech.), PT (Penetrant Tech.), MT (Magnetic Particle Tech) and level II in RT (Radiography=X-ray? Tech), I am well aware of the possibilities and merits of Ultrasound technology. I am firmly convinced that/if someone would spent the money and effort to devise systems for gout/tophi detection, as “they” have for the detection of the minutest cracks in aircraft parts, it would/could be one of the most accurate and cheapest ways to identify, magnify, and quantify gout deposits and their destructive affects.
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
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Most people with inflamed joints (whatever the cause) will attest to the increased aches in damp weather. However, for gout sufferers, there is also a possible situation where gout increases in hot weather, unless you stay hydrated.…Keith, with all due respect, and you do know I do respect you, ?I am not buying the hot weather theory entirely, especially based on just one study. ?
I have a 15 year history of living in the State of Missouri=Misery with recorded 100-105 deg. in the summer and humidities in the 95-100% range. Each day (almost each) 45 minutes sauna (165-185 degrees), 3-4 bottles of home brew, also some Canadian whiskey, or gin, or vodka, and after dinner liqueurs (1 or 2), half the amount of water than today (for the last 15 years in New Mexico) and only ONE=1 attack every 16-18 months, just like clock work. (Also ate 16-22oz steaks or Prime Rib roast.) And I also grew some beautiful, invisible tophi during that time which manifested themselves 15-25 years later, clear up to this day.
Unless we get some accurate records of people living in the Sahara and/or Gobi desert, Australia, or Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and New Mexico (not just from me) with gout and reoccurring attacks and their life style, I don't buy it.
…They are asking stupid questions as a matter of rote, and deserve stupid answers. …
So true, however, not only for doctors with stupid questions but for all descendants/members of the species “Homo Stupiens”.?
Iconoclast said:
? is it important that I have them extract the serum from my knee as well?? ?
Not really, unless there is serious doubt that/if you have gout. It's generally done if a person has other arthritic problems and deposits other than MSU, like, frequently Calcium deposits. X-ray and MRI don't show Urate deposits but Ca deposits. So far only that new equipment: DECT-Somatron, is capable of showing Urates and distinguishing between those types.
Iconoclast said:
Hansinnm?
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I noticed that you said SUA (Serum Uric Acid) test just now.? Is this different than just a UA (Uric Acid) value?? ?
No, they are one and the same. I guess they use the term SUA to clarify that the UA is in the blood or the serum they extract (in most cases, not always) from the knee. The latter one particularly to ascertain that they are dealing with gout. This is, because the solid, white stuff, called tophi is MSU, the salt of UA.
Regarding the Comprehensive Metabolic Panel Test? wouldn't I be able to have that done in Japan?? ?
Yes.
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BTW? I noticed you said “with your excellent command of the English language?” in your post.?? I'm a native English speaker and an American lol.? I just live in Japan for work.
No wonder, your profile didn't identify you as such.
Iconoclast said:
Well, I must say these responses are not making me feel very at ease.? I suppose its possible for the doctor to have given bad results.
Having gout and getting attacks is NOT a condition to feel/be very much at ease, however, be thankful to have found ?a forum where true gouties will give you honest, well-meant advice.
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Sometimes its hard to get good medical help here…. I'm actually going back to the US for a few weeks soon to visit but I have no insurance coverage there so it wouldn't matter anyway….
If you can afford a round-trip ticket to the USA you can afford paying for a medical blood test at any of the nation-wide medical labs. I am only familiar with and can recommend SED labs, with facilities all over the country. Their charges for a simple blood tests range from $20-$50, depending on location and extent of blood test. However, you MUST have a referral or doctor's request for whatever you want to have tested, in this case, SUA (Serum Uric Acid)?
Using your computer you should be able to locate a SED lab within reasonable distance from where you are going to be visiting. They generally provide address and telephone numbers and with your excellent command of the English language you, also, should not have any problems telephoning them and ask all necessary questions what to do to get a blood test done. With that info your doctor aught to be able to give you the required forms for your test.
One other piece of advice: While you are at a SED lab, get a so called COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL TEST (must also be requested by your doctor) which will give you and any doctor the info with regard to your liver and ?kidneys. This info is absolutely necessary for the future of your body and gout, as well as other possible problems associated with liver ?and kidneys. Being as young as you are, you might, can prevent certain deceases down the road of your life. ?
odo said:
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
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3.9 is a lovely number (you are certain it is mg/dL aren't you)
From 10.7 to 3.9mg/dL in a month on 200mg of Allo is highly unlikely. Drs are idiots and only read what they see on a piece of paper. Hospitals often use more than one lab, which can use different units of meaurement. You need to double check your result.
I am all the way with Odo and then some: Instead of using the polite term: “highly unlikely” I'd say “Impossible”, unless you found yourself a new metabolism at a bargain price at Walmart and also changed your bar-hopping life to an austere monastary monk's life.
caroleah said:
?I would appreciate any advise that you could give me to lead me in the right direction.? Thank you so much.
Carole
Carole, you are one in a million+, meaning you are one goutie in/among a million+ gouties who have gone through what you are now going through.
?Please, don't waste your time, money, and efforts on what charlatans, including doctors of the medical industry are trying to push you to do or take. Instead, use your time to read all about gout here on the GoutPal forum, #1. Then find a competent rheumatologist to deal with your gout. If s/he is competent, s/he will order all the necessary blood tests to establish the exact uric acid level, monitor your liver and kidney functions, and prescribe the appropriate gout med. First choice is Allopurinol, if you are not allergic. In that case, you have the battle half won. You will be on it for life, but life will be livable again. Don't accept any vague figures or remarks that your UA level is high, low, or normal. You and your doctor got to know the exact figure to control it.
3-5 mg/dl is very good; 5-6 mg is getting to the danger line; 6-7 is the danger zone with 6.8 mg/dl considered the critical line; 7-9/10 is almost a sure level for gout attacks and formation of tophy (read up on that), although lower levels can also trigger ?flares, twinges, attacks. Some people with UA 8-10 NEVER get gout, but don't let that mislead you.
Cherry juice is a nice fruity drink, but it will NOT cure/treat/reduce gout. (It's healthy, alright. I have been drinking concentrated Montmorency (tart) cherry juice for 6 years, and I love it, but I still have gout.)
?Colcrys, formerly Colchicine, b/4 the greedy URL pharmaceutical company, with the collaboration of the FDA, turned it into an extortion scam, will not work on your gout, either. It only treats the inflammation associated with gout attacks.
I can assure you, if you want to manage/control your gout, every minute you spent here (reading) on the forum will be rewarded, and, above all, IT WON'T COST YOU A SINGLE PENNY.
Good luck!
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
… to see if he has remembered my explanation of what a uric acid test result means (no smiley – I'm seriously disappointed by his fixation with the meaningless 'normal').
Keith, I don't know if you are the only one with common sense left in this gouty world of ours! I have just read again your page about uric acid test results. You are so right. The word NORMAL in my book is nothing but a bunch of horse manure. My medical records since 1976 to this date show the high for NORMAL: 7.0, 7.4, 8.0, 8.5, 9.0, even 10.0 mg/dl and the lows from 1.8 all the way to 4.0. In some cases the difference of 2 points in the same year, but from different labs. I have come to the conclusion (similar to yours) that the NORMAL ranges are/were set by the lab directors and they are/were the gods whom we ignorant peasants should not dare to doubt them or contradict. And the ones who SHOULD have questioned them, the gods of the medical industries, went or are going right along with them (each for their own personal reasons or ignorance.)
To respond to cjeezy's dilemma: A book, as thin or as thick, could written about the fluctuation of the UA levels and attacks or no attacks, depending on your or one's ?power, scope, size/volume of imagination. I certainly could and I could contradict myself over and over on the same page without a problem.
Donna4878 said:
Are you saying that once I get my uric acid number down to a normal range, if I stay on ALLO, I can enjoy a glass of wine again?
Yes, and a few other/more goodies to boot.
sandoer said:
Hi Sandra here I'm new to the site. I wondered if testing your urine's pH balance an indicator for a gout attack. for example too much acid in urine. The reason I'm asking is because the urine test kit is less expensive than the blood meter.
No, Sandra, absolutely NOT. Your pH and knowing it does NOT tell you if you have gout and if you do, how severe it is. Only the test of your blood or an invasive withdrawal of joint fluid and/or a new dual x-ray-type machine can positively identify your gout (besides an experienced medical professional, if you can find one.) Sorry to shatter your dream.
Da5e said:
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The doctor has just put me on Allopurinol (and, yes, it does hurt to start with!) and ordered me to cut out the beer. Anyone have an informed opinion on switching from lager to a couple of pints of cider a day?
Dave, first of all: Welcome to our WORLD (the gouty forum) and second: Thank you for your wonderful English (besides Keith's). You wonder why? Ingrish is not my mother tongue but I have used it twice as long as my German and having paid triple: money, effort, and time to acquire it, I've tried to use it properly. However, having lived for more than 54 years in the States who have “murdered” the English language, especially in our modern, computer dominated age, I have fought a losing battle against morons to preserve at least 1 item one really cannot buy with money and own it and that is a good, intelligent, workable language. Very few pleasures are left for me, and reading a well written comment in English is one of them.
?Now to the core of your comment: ALCOHOL & CIDER
I can consider myself a somewhat self-proclaimed authority on that subject. I was practically raised on cider, and I mean CIDER. ( I know I drank it before I entered school and my IQ wasn't too greatly impaired considering that even at the present, it is still hovering around 145-150.) I am not talking about the sweet sugary kind, but the kind which puckers your mouth more than a kiss ever can. My parents came from the farms and inherited a few acres of land with apple and pear trees. So my father made each year between 200-300 gallons of fermented apple juice=hard cider. Since neither he nor my sisters cared too much about that (other) nectar of the gods, my mother and I got about 95% of it. (She made it to about 92 and I am on my way to it at 80+ now.)
Now, where I come from, Trier, the oldest town in Germany [>2000 years old] is also considered the wine capitol of Germany and the cider capitol. Some drinking establishments (almost) only serve hard cider (at least ?it used to be that way, 50 some years ago.) What I am trying to say is that a lot of people were drinking cider and GOUT was hardly ever the issue. My father had it for more than 40 years but survived it without meds until a couple of heart attacks shortened his life at 64. I, myself, didn't have the pleasure of dealing with it until I was 53 and I have had a lot of “fun” since then.
Now that you mentioned that cider has only .4 mg/ltr of purines vs 20 for beer (which I used to make for almost 30 years before I quit [for now] until Dec 2009) you may have a point that cider may be “healthier” than beer. And the medical industry hasn't yet convinced me of the “deadly” impact of alcohol on gout, considering that literally millions of, particularly,? French and Italians drink wine and/or beer daily, and they are not known to be nations of crippled gouties, maybe of something else, but NOT gouties. Since I can't get a decent mug of hard cider in the Land of Enchantment, I have consoled myself with ACV (Apple Cider Vinegar) instead, since it makes for a good tasting salad dressing.
Apropos CLIMATE: I just don't think, I know that it adds an unbelievable amount of good tasting spice to my life. While I was living in St. Louis, MO from 1981-1996, with temperatures and humidity reaching 100 in the summer and 0 (windchill) and 90, resp. in the winter I slept with a box (of all boxes a Gin box) in my bed because I could not stand the pressure of, even a sheet, let alone a blanket or more on my right, big toe. Since I moved to the
Land of Enchantment with temps in the 90's and humidity in the teens, I haven't had a box in my bed ever. Unfortunately, since I don't like to go to bed with my “grandmother” and my “granddaughters” don't have too much in common with me, I? haven't hardly had a warm body either in my bed any more since my last wife left for higher/hotter/colder altitudes.
And apropos MEATS: I am still enjoying red (beef), rose (pork), yellow (chicken), and white (fish) meat, except New York and Porterhouse steaks and shrimp/crab. Haven't been able to stay away from herring in wine sauce, though and a daily glass of wine, particularly my PP wine (PP=Prickly Pear) . My Uloric has, so far, protected me from attacks from heaven and hell, especially, as people know, god doesn't exist for me, so he can't attack me, and the devil doesn't want to waste his precious time on me, since he has far juicier tidbits in Washington and other parts of this planet to gorge himself on, and since I am a good, little boy who tries to obey Mother Nature, She has been trying to award me for my obedience. However, when ever I forget, She won't hesitate to remind me who is ruling this universe.
nokka said:
LFT is Liver Function Test, Hans. Looking at the list of boxes I could tick, do you reckon U&E is the one for kidneys ? It stands for Urate & Electrolytes apparently and tests the kidney in some way. I think in the past I was tested for inflammation also, but that seems a bit pointless currently….
Thanks, Nokka.
I am not sure about your U&E, since I am not familiar with UK lab tests forms. On our (USA- SED Lab) the following tests are for liver:Albumin (ref: 3.5-5.7 g/dl), Alkaline Phosphatase (ref: 40-130 iu/l), ALT=Alanine transaminase, a liver enzyme (ref:14-53 iu/l) and AST=Aspartate transaminase, an enzyme associated with liver parenchymal cells (ref: 9-43 iu/l).
For kidneys: Creatine (ref: 0.70-1.40mg/dl), BUN=Blood Urea Nitrogen (ref: 6-29mg/dl) and eGFR=estimated Glomerular Filtration Rate for male (>=60 mL/min/1.73m2) No ref. The lower the # the worse the kidney condition. <15= kidney failure or receiving dialysis.
Hope this helps.
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
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3) It's about time you acted your age and stopped these crimes (Hans don't need a smiley to know I'm joking, but happy)
Forget it, Keith. How in hell can you expect me to act my age at 80+ when I haven't learned to do it from 0 to 80?
nokka said:
? so she ticked the LFT box.
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Are there any other things which should be tested when having the bloods ? I have the form and can easily tick some more myself
LFT???
Get the complete metabolic panel test. That covers just about all important functions of your body, including liver and kidneys (the items to watch when on gout meds.)Keith (Gout Admin) said:
1)? is the “surge” effect of dissolving uric acid crystals. That factor is particularly difficult to predict, as it varies tremendously according to how well hidden the crystals are, and if they are in clusters, or fairly evenly spread.
2)? On the subject of fasting, there is a long-held myth that fasting is important prior to blood tests, but I believe this is now largely discounted.
?3)?For uric acid testing, there may be some complications with testing immediately after purine-rich meals, but this will be minimized with allopurinol.
1) I, my test results, and no real attacks (except for a couple of twinges) for almost a year can attest to your statement.
?2) I was never asked/ordered to fast for my Comprehensive Metabolic Panel /SUA blood tests over the last year. (In the past, yes, always)
3) To avoid that problem/complication I am now doing the home test when I get up in the morning before I take in any solid/liquid food (including water), do exercises, or whatever. Thus, I have a fair chance that my body/metabolism has taken care of every crime I have committed the day before.
cjeezy said:
Update, I went back to Dr today to get all my test results. My labs showed my kidneys and liver were fine and my uric acid was 4.2 even though my home meter said 5.6 (I tested about 2 hours before my visit). This makes me think that there might be a problem with my UASure meter (its almost 2 years old) since most of my recent home tests have been 5.5-6.5.
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Cjeezy, maybe this will help: All my home tests taken the same day as the lab tests (5) were about 1.5 -1.8 mg/dl ?higher than the lab tests. My take on the subject: The blood is refrigerated while in-transit to the lab from the point where it is taken. Chances are that the temp of the blood at the time of test is about 65-75 degrees. When we take the home test the blood is about 85-95 degrees because we take the test as soon as we prick our finger (body temp ~ 98 degrees) They have proven that the UA is higher at higher temps (more soluble.)
dandydon said:
1)?personally, I don't feel that blood test are ALWAYS necessary. Especially when other tests are less expensive and just as productive.
2)? I have seen podiatrists listed but not sure if they are familiar with the conditions I have.
3)?I have never, in 20 years, had a problem getting shed of it in more than 7-8 days. I'm now entering week 10 soon. Thanks for your input. It's appreciated.
1) Don, I am sorry to disagree with you regarding blood tests. No x-ray, no MRI, no urine test will tell you how much uric acid is in your blood and how much MSU has been deposited in your joints. DECT, the only equipment to show MSU is only available in 1 hospital in FL and 1 in BC, Canada.
?2) Forget podiatrists. They are not allowed to prescribe necessary meds for gout, like Allopurinol, Uloric or Probenecid. I know, I went that route.
3) With a SUA of >9mg/dl and having had gout for 20 years, I'd bet my last penny that you have MSU (MonoSodiumUrate) deposits at your joints. I have had it for >27 years and only had 1 or so attack every 1 1/2 year (for 4-7 days) during the first 20 years, but after that all hell broke lose 2-3-5 times a year. If you check my posts (including photos) you'll see why you don't want to accumulate more uric acid in your system. And having Crohn's isn't going to improve your personal condition a bit. ?
You need to find a doctor who is knowledgable in gout as well as Crohn's. Rheumatologists are recommended for gout (I have a good one, luckily), but when it comes to Crohn's and gout, YOU are the one to dig up the right doctor.
dandydon said:
?Thanks for any responses.
Don, I have been on Uloric 40mg and now 80mg for almost a year without any Uloric side effects, however, I don't have Crohn's.
?I suggest that your doctor has a complete blood test performed before any new meds, then try Uloric 40mg for 4 weeks, provided no serious side effects show up. If they do, stop and have immediately a second complete blood test ?to see what/where things happened. If no side effects show up, have that blood test done after the 4 weeks trial. You and your doctor need to know if anything went on during that test time. Make also sure that your SUA is taken each test.
Andrew said:
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I strongly urge anyone that is experiementing with natural remedies and diet to keep in mind you are experimenting on yourself, and if things do not work out, you will pay the consequences. If celery seed and black cherries cause a total remission of gout attacks I would say, “carry on”, but if you continue with sporadic attacks, please take my case into consideration and get on the Allopurinal! (or Uloric) Because it is only a matter of time before you do, and the longer you wait the more you will pay.
Well that's my story and hard-won advice.
AMEN!
I knew there was something wrong with my light switch, yesterday. When the light came on, it was on “low”. Now, after turning it up, more light is falling on that subject of “bicarb/vinegar mix”. It's an “old wife's tale/old country doctor's” recommendation: When you have severe “Heartburn” you fix a tall “bicarb/vinegar” drink. My father suffered from such severe heartburn, so did I, until 4-5 years ago (I got that solved, but that is another story.)
And here starts the fairy tale which the Grimm Brothers could have told any better, the only problem is that the fairy tale is as true and real as you and I are right now. Hold off with your question: What does HEARTBURN have to do with GOUT? Nothing and everything.
Sally, you may wish to consult Zip regarding my
comments about “gout/heartburn and bicarb/vinegar drink”. He lives
the double life of “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde”. During the day, he is
the good Dr. Jekyll=God Gout who tells gouties what gout is all about and how
to fight and control/manage it. At night, he turns into Mr. Hyde=Devil
Alchemist who brews up all sorts of drinks and can tell you what chemicals he
uses and how they interact with each other and what they can and can't do. I
hope, you catch him when he is willing to share his knowledge and experience
how bicarb and vinegar work together.
?To get back to: ? HEARTBURN/GOUT and Nothing and everything.
Heartburn doesn't have anything to do with gout. It does not cause gout, promote gout, reduces
gout: Nada, nothing, zilch, zip, zero. However, indirectly, it has everything to do with gout. How so? Heartburn is caused by too much hydrochloric acid (HCl, a very strong acid) in your stomach that rises in your body up the pipe through which your food comes down, to the point where you feel your heart is in flames and burning to a crisp. (Therefore the expression: Heartburn) If you want to know more about HEARTBURN/hydrochloric acid, go to: wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_acid?
Now, your bicarb is: NaHCO3 and your vinegar is: CH3COOH (also known as acetic acid which is a weak acid.)
Go ask Zip what happens when those two get friendly with each other.
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I'll continue my fairytale tomorrow.
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Sally, you just turned on my light!!!
My father had gout, as long as can remember. ( In the forties and fifties)
I have had gout for the last 27 years and I am presently on gout meds:Uloric. I have tried the bicarb bit, but no luck. I am using (almost daily) apple cider vinegar in my salads, because I like the taste of it. No positive side effects. But, as I said, you just turned on my light. My father used to fix a big glass of regular water (no such thing as spring water at that time for us), a teaspoon of bicarb, and several drops of 80% regular, concentrated vinegar (no such thing as Organic Cider Vinegar either at that time for us. We are talking Germany before and after WWII.)
?While he had gout , I don't recall that he ever complained about bad attacks and pain or inflammation. And I used to make and drink that bicarb/vinegar mix and, yes, did it ever fizz. I also liked it.?I make my own distilled water and I have, of course, ACV. I shall give this a try and see if it will control my SUA and any flares, twinges, attacks.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
tucky said:
Hi,
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Firstly, great site. I've spent ages reading through the posts.
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I'm currently suffering from a gout attack. My toes is quite swollen but it's not hurting as much as previous ones have, I suspect because I'm getting better at spotting the signs and drinking more water.
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My question is around alcohol. Normally I wouldn't even think of driking during a gout attack but I've been planning to go drinking with some friends tomorrow and it's the first time in ages I'll have seen them. One of them has a child now so it will be ages before he gets out again when we're all free.
Can anyone share experience of drinking on gout? Is it a big no no? I quite like GoutPal's article on it but wanted to canvass opinion.
Also is there anything I can do to tonight to increase the chances of the gout clearing for tomorrow? I'm drinking loads of water at the moment (6 litres so far today) and I was thinking of a hot bath tonight to dry to dissolve the crystals. Any other pointers?
Tucky, you came to the wrong church/priests to give you an absolution, despite your public confession. Return to your little chamber, go down on your knees and pray to God Gout (not Zip, in this case) to lower the flaming tongue of the “holy spirit” to enlighten you and give you guidance what to do with your life and how to control/manage your gout.
esabogal said:
1. Click on Insert/edit image (tree icon).
2. On the pop window click on the image after Image URL line.
3. New window must appear with Upload Tab.
4. Click on Browse.
5. A new Window would appear (OS window), browse your computer and select your file.
6. Click Upload. Progress line appears for a second and window would return to blank, this a little weird.
7. Click on Browse Tab.
8. There is a page selection. The images are presented in alphabetical order, change page until your image appears.
9. Click on your image, new window (really is the first would appear), click Insert.
10. Done.
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hope it helps.
Ernesto, thank you for trying to help me, but I am beyond help. While I was able to follow through till I got the window with Browse, Upload, and Folders, I was unable to get the file with my charts. Only files with gif, jpg,jpeg are showing up in my folder where also my charts are. They are in a Microsoft spreadsheet. This has been my problem from day1. All my personal files, folders, containing documents or charts are either in Microsoft Word or Excel.
Hans
Keith (Gout Admin) said:
?It looks like the baby has a memory that the old farts have lost (perhaps cos the baby was always left to clean up the shit)
Keith, for once, I can't argue with you about that.
That's why I don't use IE, but Opera or Firefox. Oh, I got it alright installed (you hardly get a computer here without IE) but I haven't used it for over 2-3 years.Well, I don't have to ask you, Keith, if you are improving. I can tell, the devil has a hard time to knock a hardy gouty like you down. He may be able to kick you down the stairs, but ain't going to “k o” you!!!
dcdude said:
Hans,
Even as someone of German descent, I've never heard someone use “German” and “humor” in the same sentence before. (sorry, couldn't resist) My people are from Eisfeld, north of Nurnberg.
For a while, there was a gross misconception that practically everyone in southern California surfed. I was just trying to show that's not true.
So do you eat beans and cheese or what? 🙂
Well, you see, Chuck, that's the humor. In my various different lives I have lived in various countries, so I have acquired a certain “humor”. But 9 out 0f 10 Americans don't get MY humor because it is somewhat warped, but still humor. Strangely my Irish friends and non-friends seem to be the only ones to catch the drift it.
?I used to eat lots of beans but they made me float. I still eat cheese every day, including Limburger cheese.
