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Theres a?thought that it may have to do with body temp. That your feet being the coolest part of your body because their the farthest from your core. They cool down after you go to sleep and more crystals or acid starts to settle there.?I don't know if it's true or not. But if it is?I would think a heating pad or some wool socks?would take care of it. Let us know if you try it and it works. Good luck. Limpy
Please understand I'm no doctor.?I myself would stick with the Colchicine to see if it completely stopped the attack. But the main reason for that?is Indomethacin tears my gut up. We are all a little different in that what works for one of us may not do as well for other. Has the Colchicine kicked in where your not wanting to stray to far from the bathroom? If not it will, it really cleans out the pipes.?I hope some others will chime in on this.?Good luck. Limpy
If it were me and?I had a strong attack I'd hit it hard with Colchicine and if that stopped it. That would be enough for me to?be 99% sure?I had gout. Limpy?
Yeah?I know what you mean. For over a year?I tried to get three different doctors to up my dose of Allop from 200mgs to 300 mgs. None would do it. Then?I get this new young doctor?and?I talked him right in to it. It kind of makes me a wonder if i'm doing the right thing. But?I just want to get rid of this pain.?I guess time will tell. Limpy
Some people think that the lower your levels are the quicker the crystals will melt away. Once?I got my level below 6 my rhummy said I'd be fine if?I just rode it out.?I thought that was pretty brave of him since?I was the one in pain not him. As for the pain your having. Have you tried Colchicine? It will make you run to the bathroom but at lease you'll be able to run. If your at 4.6 I'd bet your pain is from old crystals melting from everything I've read they won't form below 6. How long have you been on Allop? I know as soon as?I started on it?I got another attack. So if your just starting on it. It may be a while till?your pain lets up. Colchicine will stop an attack so if your dr. hasn't offered it I'd be asking him for it. Good luck. Limpy?
I?have pain almost every day but my feet hurt more as the day goes on. Some days are worse than others. All and all I'm alot better then?I use to be when just trying to walk would about bring tears to my eyes.?I might be wrong but?I think?I remember someone saying psuedo gout was bad first thing in the morning and got better as the went on. Limpy
I've been on Allop and Colchicine for 18 months and still have pain altho it's a lot better then it was.?I just had my uric acid checked it was 5.40. My first Rhummy told me?I could have pain for up to a year but then it would be like?I never had Gout at all I'm still waiting. Limpy
Thanks Zip, The only reason for the slow increase is?I didn't want any reaction from it.?I always try to go on the slow side of things when it comes to meds.
Well?I just got my labs back uric acid is 5.40 which?I was told again?(is in the normal range)?My new?doctor?said?I could increase my Allop if?I wanted.?I have a couple questions. Can you drop your acid level to far? I'm thinking of adding 50mgs for two weeks then another 50mgs after a that. So my total would be 300mgs a day. Does that sound about right? Limpy
Hi Keith, If?I hear anyone even mention Gout they have my full attention. As far as this site. It's the first thing?I?tell them to check out?for help with this curse. Now?I have a question about Allop. If my uric acid level test comes back and it shows that I'm still around 3.9??Would it hurt to add another 50mgs of Allop to my 200 or would that drop my level to?low? What is to low? I'm so much better than?I was?when?I first start?taking Allop and Colchicine. About 18 months ago.?At that time?I was to a point where the pain so bad?it was all?I could do just to hobble ten feet to the bathroom. Walking on my heels and the sides of my feet.?I remember thinking that I'm not going to go thru the rest of my life in this kind of pain. When the pain?lighten up the next day?I?sent my handgun home with my brother. Just to get it away from me so?I wouldn't do something in a moment of weakness?that would cause my family and friends?pain. Now days?I start out in the mornings with my feet feeling pretty good but if I'm on them a lot by the end of the of the day?I have quite a bit of pain and a little bit of swelling but no off color or heat in them.?I can't be on?concrete any time at all?or my feet a just start?pounding.?My hope is this will get better if?I increase the Allop. Limpy???
Well met with the new dr had blood drawen now waiting for results.?I must say I'm not really sold on this guy. He's nice enough?but he kind of reminds me of a puppy very excitable and wanting to please. He asked if it was ok to have his?assitant sit in. Which?I ageed to. It was kind of funny he kept asking her questions. Like what meds could be used for pain and what was best to lower uric acid. When he ask her what meds would give people Gout??She replied?I should know this and started going thru her little book.?I said HTZ and you would have thought?I hit the lottery he was beaming. Your right he said how did you know that . So?I told him about this site and that?I had probably read more about Gout than him and her put together. We then talked about the trouble I've been having and me doubting the results of my last test. He brought up Uloric which?I shot down telling him altho at this time?I have insurance. That could change in the future and?I could not afford $5 a pill.?Also?I thought the Allop was doing fine as far as that went that?I might just have to up the dose. He said he'd have no problem upping the dose depending on the test.?I told him if?I increased the dose I'd like to go up 50mgs?for a month and then another 50 after that. He said that?I seemed to have an idea what was best for me. Thats where we left it. LIMPY?
Hey Zip & Hans, I'm going in tomorrow to see a new doctor as I've been having more pain in my feet lately and as you guys said the numbers don't add up with that low of an acid level. Other then uric acid what other blood test should?I ask for? Thanks Limpy
Hello Brian,?Sorry to say there is no quick fix other than taking Colchicine till your running to to bathroom. How were you diagnosed for Gout? The only way to tell if it's Gout is to have fluid taken from a joint and tested for crystals. If you take a big enough dose of Colchicine and the attack stops thats a good sign?you have?Gout also. Once Gout has been confirmed. You need to be on Allopurinol for the rest of your life. Your doctor should have told you this already and had you?on it. Now for the bad news till you get your acid level down below 6 (below 5 would be better) your going to keep having these attacks. When?I first found out?I had Gout the doctor started me on Prednisone and it knocked out the pain and swelling for awhile but it would always come back so he would up the dose and I'd go thru it again. This went on for 8 months,?till?Istarted having heart trouble from the pred. then the asshole finally put me on Colchicine and that really slowed the attacks. Now I'm on 200mgs of Allop a day and one 0.6 Colchicine twice a day. Altho I'm not back to 100% I'm a whole lot better than?I was. Theres a couple?of things that you?might try and see if they help.?Start drinking a lot?water to flush some of the acid out.?I try to drink?enough water so?I'm peeing clear by the end of the day. 1/2 oz of water for every pound you weigh will be a good starting point. So if you are at 200 lbs drink 100 ozs of water a day. One other thing that worked for me was 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon?of baking soda (?I used Arm & Hammer)?mixed in a half a glass of water 2 two 4 times a day. WARNING I'M NO DOCTOR THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I TRIED MYSELF AND IT WORKED FOR ME. IT CAN RAISE YOU BLOOD PRESSURE SO MAKE SURE YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.?Finally once you get on and stay on the allop it will get better. So welcome the the family that no one wants to be a part of. And good luck. Limpy
Thanks Zip and Hans,?I agree that 3.9 sounds low for only 200mgs Allop.?Thats why?I ask my dr. if there was a mistake. And?I will get it checked again.?I would gladly take another 100 mgs of Allop. If it would clear up the rest of this pain. Zip yes?I take a 81mgs asprin a day. My Afib started in Dec of 2008 a week after having a para thyroid gland taken out. They told me at the time it was probably due to them moving my thyroid around and it could have released some enzymes. Then last year?I started getting muscle spasms all over my body including my eye which caused my vision to jump all over the place. It was every upsetting. Since the last med?I had added to the mix was a bata blocker called Bystolic?I thought it could be the cause.?I asked to try a different bata blocked to see if it would help. They gave my Atenanol. That night?I took it and went to bed two hours later?I woke up in Afib.?I went to the ER and they said?I didn't have enough Atenanol in me and tried to get me to take two more which?I refused.?A nurse told me later it was good that?I didn't take it as my blood pressure had been dropping. That was last Nov. Since then I've had a few flutters and some skipped beats but I've been doing a lot better since April when?I started taking an amio?acid called Taurine it has made a world of difference.?I showed the bottle to my heart dr. and he said it won't help you but it won't hurt you either. Later?Ihad joy of telling him he was wrong. As far as uping my dose of Allop to 300mgs I've tried several times with three different doctors they all said no.?I guess I'll see what they say after my next blood test. Limpy
Hi Veg,?I just started checking back in here myself. It's been kind of slow around here lately. It's good to have you back.?I hope you get your new pain under control soon. Limpy.
You could start by drinking enough water every day to flush your kidneys. That may help with both the urine smell and taking some of the uric acid out of your system. You should drink 1/2 OZ of water for every pound you weigh. So if you weigh 150 pounds you need to drink 75 ozs of water?a day. Or drink water till your peeing clear. As far as herbs I've tried a couple but?I can't say they ever did me any good. Colchicine and Allop is the only thing that really helped my over the long haul. As far as posting click on Please Help My Gout then look for New Topic in the top right corner?of the gray header.?Click on that and you should be good to go.????????????? Good luck Limpy
hansinnm said:
JCabo said:
What is the price of Uloric.. before.. or without insurance.. for 30 – 60 – 90 – 365 days per year?
You figure it out for yourself. ONE PILL costs $5.
Wow that's what Colchicine cost to?I hope the head of the FDA gets the worst case of Gout you can get. A$$HOLES Limpy.
I don't know but?I bet it's more then Allop by quite a bit. Since they do pretty much the same thing I'll stick with the Allpo. Limpy
WALMART AND SOME OTHER PLACES HAVE A LIST OF GENRERIC DRUGS THAT THEY SELL FOR $4 YOU CAN ASK IF ALLOP. IS ON THAT LIST. I KNOW COLCHICINE ISN'T CAUSE THE FDA? JUST SCREWED US AND GAVE IT TO ONE COMPANY. EVEN IF ALLOP?IS NOT ON THEIR LIST OF CHEAP DRUGS. IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH. COSTCO IS ANOTHER PLACE TO CALL EVEN IF YOUR NOT A MEMBER YOU CAN STILL GET YOUR PERSCRIPTIONS FILLED THERE. HAVE YOU CALLED YOUR?DR YET??
Call your dr. he should be able to call in a?scrip for allop if he was the one that told you you have Gout. If you have a Walmart near check and see if this is one of their $4 drugs if so have your dr. call it in there. As far as other things you can do?I myself have stopped an attack with Arm and Hammer baking soda.( THIS IS SOMETHING I DID ON MY OWN AND I'M NOT RECONMENDING YOU DO IT AS I'M NOT A DR.?IT'S JUST?SOMETHING THAT WORKED FOR ME)?I would?take 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon in a 1/2 cup of water mix it up an drink it down.?I would do this a couple of times a day, sometimes every 4 or 5 hours. But be warned this is just a temporary fix and can raise you blood pressure. This worked for me for a couple of weeks then it seemed to lose it effect.?A there is a couple of things you can try. First drink a lot of water it is the number 1 thing as far as home remedies. I've heard 1/2 a ounce for every pound you weigh so if you weigh 200 lbs you should drink at least 100 ounces?day. I try to drink enough water that I'm pissing clear by the end of the day?your?mileagemay vary. some people have good luck with cherries and cherry juice either canned or fresh. It never worked for me but some people swear by it. The same goes for black bean broth it works for some but not for others. But in the end if you have Gout. Allop and Colchicine and the other Gout meds are the only true fixes out there. In my opinion.?If you have gout you need to be on Allop and get it in your head this is something your going to have to take for the rest of your life.?What ever do?I wish you luck. Limpy
You have to get on Allop and stay on it is a pretty cheap drug and over time will work wonders for most people. The only problem is if the crystals have built up it will take time to dissolve them and you will get more attacks thats where the Colchicine comes in.?Limpy.?
How was your Gout diagnosed ? Have you had fluid taken from your joint and checked for crystals? That's the only way to know for sure before you start taking Allop. Whitch is a drug you'll be on for the rest of your life. If you can talk your dr. into giving you some Colchicine and take a good dose and that stops the attack that will also tell you you have gout. What meds did you take that helped??Did you have your uric acid level checked ? If so?what was it? It my be lower right now cause your going thru an attack but you need to have it checked. Good luck. Limpy
As far as attacks go you could make a list of things you think may trigger an attack and slowly ad them to your diet. Kind of a watch and see.?I don't think one food one time will set off an attack. But were all different. Good luck. Limpy
Hey Zip i'll give you a quick run down. The pain started two years ago. I went thru all the tests finally joint fluid showed Gout. Started on 200 mgs Allop and?1 Colchicine twice a day. That was about 16 months ago.?I was told?at the time that after a year on the Colchicine and keeping my acid level down?I could get off it and it would be like?I never had Gout as long as?I stayed on the Allop. Since then everytime?I try to ween myself of it the pain comes?back.?I told my rhummy about it and the price jump he perscribed 500 mgs Naproxen?twice a day. Well since i've been in Afib twice in the last two years i'm kind of scared to add any more meds to the mix. altho my heart dr. said the Naproxen would be ok?i'm still a little leary.?My last blood test was in Feb.?and my acid level was 3.90.?I questioned the dr. about the test results?wondering if there may have been a mistake cause of the pain he just kind of blew it off. So thats where i've been every since. Limpy.??
drmarclevine said:
It works extremely well.? Of course, it's not addressing the root cause of your gout –that would be elevated uric acid levels in your blood — but the colchicine will reduce your pain.? I take two 0.6mg pills per day for flares without any stomach issues, though your mileage may vary.? It can be used as a preventive measure but I wouldn't consider it a long-term strategy since all? it's doing is getting in the way of the imflammatory process, not doing anything about your uric acid.? Talk to your doc about Allopurinol as a long-term gout management approach.
Yep,?I agree with this .?I take 200mgs of Allopurinol a day and?I wish that it would keep the pain away but it dosen't. So i'm stuck taking the Colchicine.?I wish there was another way but without it in a short time?I can't walk cause of the pain. Limpy
The only way the doctor was sure?I had Gout. Was to take fluid out of my ankle joint and have it tested for crystals they finally found them on the second try. My acid level never was that high when ever they tested it. Good luck. Limpy
It will stop an attack but you should take it as soon as your sure your having one.?I take one Colchicine twice a day as a preventitive?to keep the pain a way. The bad things are running to the bathroom at a moments notice and the price jump. It went from $28 to $310 for a months supply whitch for me?is 60 pills or about $5 each. Lucky for me?I still have insurance so thru Caremark with my copay its about $90 for 3 months. Limpy
Maybe 6.74?is average for someone without Gout i'm not sure.?But its a killer for anyone that has it because?at that level the crystals are probably forming one day and breaking down the next. Putting you in a bad place. Where if you were on say 400 mgs of Allo and?your acid level was below 6 you would be melting away the crystals and in time the pain.?Good luck. Limpy?
